Heaven, and why its important to get it correct – 2

If you would like to read the first part in this two part series, you can go here.

I decided to do this in two parts because the last post was a little bit long.

“When it comes to Heaven, I try to leave that up to God” is T.D. Jakes comment towards the Muslim women, and I do agree with him on that, partly.  God does have the final say who goes to heaven and who doesn’t and we can’t judge a person’s heart, because we really can’t see what is inside of it.  But I disagree with not having somewhat of a say about the way to Heaven.  The Bible clearly says that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven and living for anybody other than Him will probably not get you through the pearly gates.  All of John 10 is good, but I am only going to share a small part with you.

John 10:7-11 “So Jesus again said to them, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8All who came before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture. 10The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. 11I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.”

Jesus also speaks in John 14 about this subject:

John 14:6&7 “Jesus said to him, ‘ I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.”

Those are two big clues that Jesus is the only way, and if T. D. Jakes is really a follower of Christ, he needs to read the scriptures more thoroughly and not just specific ones.

Pastor Joel Osteen’s abysmal showing on Larry King Live back in October 2005:

KING: Because we’ve had ministers on who said, your record don’t count. You either believe in Christ or you don’t. If you believe in Christ, you are, you are going to heaven. And if you don’t no matter what you’ve done in your life, you ain’t.   OSTEEN: Yeah, I don’t know. There’s probably a balance between. I believe you have to know Christ. But I think that if you know Christ, if you’re a believer in God, you’re going to have some good works. I think it’s a cop-out to say I’m a Christian but I don’t ever do anything … KING: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?   OSTEEN: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know …   KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?    OSTEEN: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God will judge a person’s heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.

As a Christian, we need to stick to the faith that we have and the Doctrine that is before us in the Bible.  We can’t be uncertain on some of the beliefs and strong on others, which usually doesn’t help those looking for truth and trying to figure Christianity out.  They will probably see that we as a whole don;’t consistently follow what we believe.  Joel has a lot of  “I don’t know” ‘s, but still says that you need to believe in Christ and have a personal relationship with Him to get to Heaven.  We all know we can’t see a person’s heart, but what King was asking was the facts, it could be different for different people and how well we know them and can see their life style.  We need to give truth with grace and God will do the rest.

CALLER: Hello, Larry. You’re the best, and thank you, Joe — Joel — for your positive messages and your book. I’m wondering, though, why you side-stepped Larry’s earlier question about how we get to heaven? The bible clearly tells us that Jesus is the way, the truth and the light and the only way to the father is through him. That’s not really a message of condemnation but of truth. OSTEEN: Yes, I would agree with her. I believe that… KING: So then a Jew is not going to heaven? OSTEEN: No. Here’s my thing, Larry, is I can’t judge somebody’s heart. You know? Only god can look at somebody’s heart, and so — I don’t know. To me, it’s not my business to say, you know, this one is or this one isn’t. I just say, here’s what the bible teaches and I’m going to put my faith in Christ. And I just I think it’s wrong when you go around saying, you’re saying you’re not going, you’re not going, you’re not going, because it’s not exactly my way. I’m just… KING: But you believe your way. OSTEEN: I believe my way. I believe my way with all my heart. KING: But for someone who doesn’t share it is wrong, isn’t he?  OSTEEN: Well, yes. Well, I don’t know if I look at it like that. I would present my way, but I’m just going to let god be the judge of that. I don’t know. I don’t know.

Thanks caller, whoever you are, to give Joel a huge thought in his head on where his position lied and how he was going to handle talking with others about it.  I hope and pray for those in Leadership, either at a church being a pastor or somewhere else teaching the Bible, that they would follow what God instructs in the Bible and that they would be loving but also truthful about the big issues concerning life.

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