Heaven and Joel Osteen

This continues the Heaven talk with the actual video of when Osteen and Larry King talk. This quote is from the guy that put this video up on youtube.  I don’t really like the tone that he uses in these first few sentences or even some of the words that he uses, but there is a way that we can be sure that someone is not going to heaven and that is because they don’t have Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Saviour and pronounce Him to be that for them to anyone that they meet. So I do agree with him on some parts, the main and basic ones!

ATTENTION NON-JUDGMENTALISTS!  PLEASE READ THIS:

For Osteen not to say that the unbeliever is on his/her way to burn in hell for eternity, when the vast majority of Larry King’s viewers are unsaved, atheists, heathens, etc., is one of the most egregious sins a so called ‘man of God’ can commit.

For those that don’t have Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour and are not living for Him, but living for themselves, they will be sent to Hell for all eternity, alone and lonely.  Jesus will be the final Judge and we are suppose to love and continue to share to good news with everyone, but some will not hear and will not be with Him forever if they try and go “their own way.” And in those kinds of situations, you can sometimes tell from the actions where someone’s heart is at and who is in control.

To say that Jesus told us not to judge another person’s heart is an out right lie. Jesus said that “every tree is known by his own fruit.” Luke 6:44; “for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.” Mat. 12:34. Jesus told us to “judge righteous judgment.” John 7:24. “Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.” 1 Tim. 5:20.

If you look at the Context of John 7:24, Jesus is talking about work on the Sabbath and how the Jews are following rules that will hopefully make God happy with them, while Jesus healed a sick man on the Sabbath because of the work that God was doing. Jesus did that miracle on the Sabbath because it was glorifying to God and as Jesus said in verse 17 of Chapter 5My Father is working until know, and I am working.”  So for us to use this and seeking our own righteous judgment, we can look to see if the actions of others are not just about appearances, but that they are focused towards the glory of God.

Jesus said, “As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten:” Rev. 3:19.  John said, “Beloved, now are we the sons of God,” 1 John 3:2. (read the whole verse, this is just a part)

In Revelation 3:19 and the whole context of 3:14-21, is a letter to the Church in Laodicea stating that they were lukewarm and in need of some reproof and discipline  for what they were not doing for God. They had money and everything else and decided that they didn’t need anything else, as Jesus “For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked.” Rev.3:17 Pretty harsh statement to make, but with the condition of all of us, it is good to hear and understand.

Paul said, “But if ye be without chastisement… then are ye bastards, and not sons.” Heb. 12:8.

Hebrews 12:8, in the ESV Bible, says this “If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons.” (I am not sure where he got that translation.) This verse as well as the context or verses 3-17, talks about how God disciplines us, not becuase He hates us or likes to see us hurting and weak, but to bring us back to Himself where we can find all the strength we need to live on and fight for Him.  Please read all of Hebrews 12, but especially verses 3-17 becuase it explans so well the things that we will go through and why they come to be in the first place.

Jesus said to “repent.” Rev. 3:19 This is not ‘condemning’ a person (Heb. 4:12).

Hebrews 4:12 says “For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.” The Bible doesn’t condemn a person, it shows the way to eternal life! It doesn’t condemn a person, it help in their growth towards the Creator! It doesn’t condemn a person, it brings new life to those that believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God and the only way to get to heaven. If people, those that don’t believe in Jesus and Him being the only way, try and go their own way or do their own thing, then they have condemned themselves and no body else is to blame.

When Jesus said, “Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?” Matt. 23:33;

The whole chapter of Matthew 23 talks about the Scribes and Pharisees, and how they were not allowing people into the kingdom because of the wrong things that they were saying. “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat, so practive and observe whatever they tell you–but not what they do. For they preach, but do not practice.”  Matthew 23:2-3 Jesus called the Hypocrites because they said one thing and did something totally different. It was not a way of showing others how to live for God, instead they were showing others how to live for themselves, that is why Jesus called them what He called them.

And when Paul said, “thou child of the devil,” Acts 13:10;

Paul,who in that time was still named Saul in Acts 13:4-12, meets a magician, a Jewish false prophet that was lying and pushing people away from God with the incorrect things he was saying.  This magician was trying to turn another man that Saul and Barnabas came to talk to away from the faith. This man was very intelligent and probably in a high position, so that if he did believe, which it says in verse 12, he could be able to spread the gospel further.

And when John said, “all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire” Rev. 21:8;

John, in Revelations 21:1-8, saw a vision of the New Heaven and the New Earth, the time when Jesus would return to place judgment on all.  As you read that passage, you see that those who are believes will rejoice when Jesus comes back, because He will make everything new, but for those that don’t believe, the end is a dreaded place.  “But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexual immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, there portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” Rev. 21:8 For those that are Christians and are a little freaked out about this, don’t worry; if you have repented of your sins and continued to live your life for Christ, He will and did take all of our sins on the Cross and has forgiven us of everyone that we committed and repented of. Really He has forgive us, children of God, of all our sins, because He loves us so much and wants us to be close to Him so we can be able to glorify Him more and more.

they were not condemning anyone! They were warning us!

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2 Responses to “Heaven and Joel Osteen”

  1. Lakewood Member Says:

    This is a 5-year-old video. If Joel Osteen believes that Jesus is NOT the only way to Heaven, then he would say this again. Where is it? I have heard him say that Jesus IS the only way on the second Larry king interview and on several other interviews including with Barbara Walters.
    If you want to ignore Joel’s apology that he posted on his internet site after the old Larry king interview, then you must really hate the apostle Peter… he denied Jesus three times before apologizing.

    • rylanreed Says:

      If you can find the second video and apology, then I can somewhat agree on that… But I’m still not impressed with how Joel is using his money and telling people to ask God for what ever they want and if they are good and obedient for Christ, He will give them all they want. Send me video or text that say otherwise and I will listen…

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